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Moss rosePeter Lambert, 1911Red

Goethe

Synonym Goethe-Rose; an important correction: in my notes it was listed as Tantau Hybrid Tea — in fact it is Peter Lambert 1911, a moss rose, a hybrid with R. multiflora; triploid.

Rare hybrid with R. multiflora · once-flowering

Variety profile

Flowering

Once-flowering

ONE-TIME — once a year (June–July), but very abundant for 3–4 weeks. Months are approximate, for the climate of Ukraine.

Awards

Lambert

1911 · historic German Moss rose

Winter hardiness

−37 °C

USDA zone 3b+. Exceptional; all of Ukraine without cover. Exceptional · all of Ukraine without winter protection.

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Plant size

150–245 × 90–120 cm
person 170 cmon a supportup to 3 m150–245 cm
Habit
A very tall bush with arching canes; often grown as a small climber of 2.5–3 m on a low support or trellis
Dimensions
150–245 cm high × 90–120 cm wide; as a climber up to 3 m
Support
Not necessary as a bush; for the climbing form — a low support, fence or trellis
Shoots
Long, arching, bending down under the weight of the clusters
Branching
Good, forming a strong framework over time

Flower

9–16 petals
Bud shape
Round-oval, with the characteristic mossy fuzz on the sepals ('mossy') — the main feature of the class
Open flower
Semi-double, with prominent yellow stamens; small — typical for multiflora origin
Centre
Bright yellow centre of stamens
Fullness
Semi-double, 9–16 petals
Flower carriage
In small clusters — a multiflora character

Fragrance

Light

Light, pleasant — not the variety's strong point; its main value is colour and mossiness.

Disease resistance

5 out of 5

Outstanding — over 100 years in cultivation without chemicals; the hybrid with R. multiflora gave the line 'iron health'.

Sun

Sun or partial shade

Tolerates some shade; typical of old moss roses.

Thorns

Moderate
thornlessfewmoderatemanyvery many

Moderate number; with mossy fuzz on the sepals.

Foliage

Dark green, a multiflora-style look (finer than classic moss roses).

Other names

Goethe-Rose
All characteristics in a table
Group
Moss rose
Breeder
Peter Lambert, Germany, 1911
Bud shape
Round-oval, with the characteristic mossy fuzz on the sepals ('mossy') — the main feature of the class
Open flower
Semi-double, with prominent yellow stamens; small — typical for multiflora origin
Centre
Bright yellow centre of stamens
Colour
Bright raspberry pink ('scarlet') — a rich tone that tends towards purple as the flowers fade
Fullness
Semi-double, 9–16 petals
Flower carriage
In small clusters — a multiflora character
Flowering
ONE-TIME — once a year (June–July), but very abundant for 3–4 weeks
Fragrance
Light, pleasant — not the variety's strong point; its main value is colour and mossiness
Hips
Triploid (3n) — usually sterile, produces no hips
Habit
A very tall bush with arching canes; often grown as a small climber of 2.5–3 m on a low support or trellis
Branching
Good, forming a strong framework over time
Shoots
Long, arching, bending down under the weight of the clusters
Thorns
Moderate number; with mossy fuzz on the sepals.
Dimensions
150–245 cm high × 90–120 cm wide; as a climber up to 3 m
Support
Not necessary as a bush; for the climbing form — a low support, fence or trellis
Foliage
Dark green, a multiflora-style look (finer than classic moss roses)
Resistance
Outstanding — over 100 years in cultivation without chemicals; the hybrid with R. multiflora gave the line 'iron health'
Variations of the variety
Synonym Goethe-Rose; parentage Rosa multiflora × unknown; triploid (3n) — sterile, produces no seed; a rare experimental hybrid between moss and multiflora roses

Colour scheme

Bright raspberry pink ('scarlet') — a deep tone that tends towards purple as the flowers fade

Rose neighbours

Perennials to plant nearby

Neighbouring roses

Early twentieth-century contemporaries — a historic company:

Companion perennials

Silver-purple accents set off the dramatic raspberry:

lavender 'Hidcote'lamb's ear (Stachys)lady's mantle (Alchemilla)catmint 'Walker's Low'

Availability worldwide

A historic rarity — mainly in collections:

  • 🇪🇺 Europe: moderate · specialist old rose nurseries
  • 🇺🇸 USA: low · Antique Rose Emporium, Rogue Valley
  • 🇯🇵 Asia: very low
  • 🇺🇦 Ukraine: very low · rare, found only in collectors' gardens

More about the variety

Hips
Triploid (3n) — usually sterile, produces no hips
Variations of the variety
Synonym Goethe-Rose; parentage Rosa multiflora × unknown; triploid (3n) — sterile, produces no seed; a rare experimental hybrid between moss and multiflora roses

How to grow

Where to plant. Historical romantic gardens, themed 'German literary' borders (next to roses named after writers); arches, low supports, fences; as a 'living wall' in an old-fashioned style; looks good in partial shade (a rare quality in roses).

Climate. To −37 °C — all of Ukraine without cover, even the Carpathians; one of the hardiest roses of the XX century; legendary in Canada and northern Scandinavia.

Care. Minimal — flowers once, on the previous year's canes; prune only for health after flowering; do not prune it yearly like a HT — this would destroy the next flowering; over 100 years in cultivation without chemicals.

About the name

Name. The variety is dedicated to Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749–1832), the greatest German poet, playwright and prose writer of the Enlightenment and Romantic era; author of 'Faust', 'The Sorrows of Young Werther' and 'Wilhelm Meister'. Goethe was also a natural scientist and botanist — he wrote the scientific work 'The Metamorphosis of Plants' (1790), which influenced the understanding of flower structure in European botany. That makes this dedication especially fitting.

Breeding. Bred by Peter Lambert in Trier, Germany, 1911. Lambert was one of the key figures of German rose breeding in the early XX century; his best-known variety is 'Frau Karl Druschki' (1901), the legendary white hybrid perpetual that became the model of 'white roses' in the XX century. Lambert also created Hybrid Musks (Lambertianas), the forerunners of Hybrid Musks Pemberton. Goethe's parentage: Rosa multiflora × unknown. A hybrid between traditional moss roses (with the characteristic mossy bristles on the sepals) and multiflora (with small flowers in clusters) — a rare combination.

Significance. An experimental work by Lambert at the junction of two classes — Moss × Multiflora. It produced an unusual combination: mossiness (glandular bristles on the sepals) + a cluster inflorescence (multiflora origin) + exceptional hardiness (to −37 °C) + triploidy (usually sterile, which produces no seed and must be propagated vegetatively). Today the variety remains a rare collector's curiosity, which illustrates a striking contrast: a classic German 'literary' name (Goethe — a symbol of high culture) on an experimental hybrid plant (a scientific work at the junction of classes). It is practically absent from modern Ukrainian collections — it has to be sought in European specialist nurseries for old roses.

Frequently asked questions about Goethe

Does Goethe need winter protection?

The cultivar’s reference temperature is −37 °C (USDA zone 3b+). Overwintering depends on the conditions. Exceptional; all of Ukraine without cover.

How many times a season does Goethe flower?

ONE-TIME — once a year (June–July), but very abundant for 3–4 weeks.

How big does Goethe grow?

150–245 cm tall, 90–120 cm wide. On a support — up to 300 cm.

Which diseases affect Goethe?

Overall resistance: 5 out of 5. Outstanding; over 100 years in cultivation without chemicals.

How much sun does Goethe need?

Sun or partial shade; tolerates some shade; typical of old moss roses.

What does Goethe smell like?

Light, pleasant — not the variety's strong point; its main value is colour and mossiness.

Gardeners' photos and reviews

My climate

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Regional data are generalised. USDA describes average annual extreme minima, not a forecast; the values in the list are rounded. Check the conditions at your site. More information: Roses in Ukraine's climate.